Vaccine's causing autism

[jpd1975]

I've heard a lot of news about the rise in autism and the possible link between that and the MMR vaccination given to children at about 18 mos. of age. The government says there is no mercury in the vaccines, but its there, just named something different... why would the government push vaccines that cause damage to the people it is 'intended' to protect...

[Cattraknoff]

Why do the governments take away our constitutional rights? Why are we given so many great alternatives to any thought?

Because we're much less dangerous to the corrupt, decadent status-quo if we think less.

[Locke]

I'm extremely wary of the government funded push for all women to get the new Gardasil vaccine.

[jpd1975]

The dumber the general population is, the easier it is to shepherd them to their final end. Genocide. Africa is already devastated with millions of aids cases, and the numbers grow by the day. China and Southeast Asia is ripe for a pandemic. We are already prepared for it by propaganda on the news every flu season... Do you think this is coincidence? These are all pieces of the overall movement to reduce world population, sterilize many of the remaining and leave the few very rich to rule in their "New World Order."

[jpd1975]

The vaccines, the fact that Aids is killing millions of African's every day. We are spoon fed propaganda about how southeast asia and china are ripe for a pandemic that will kill billions... reducing world population overall through all these efforts by 80 %.
This is no coincidence. This is the plan, this is the new world order.

[Locke]

The vaccines, the fact that Aids is killing millions of African's every day. We are spoon fed propaganda about how southeast asia and china are ripe for a pandemic that will kill billions... reducing world population overall through all these efforts by 80 %.
This is no coincidence. This is the plan, this is the new world order.

However plausible, your argument is completely baseless.

[Cattraknoff]

However plausible, your argument is completely baseless.

The proven motivations of our governments could give it some credit.

Our constitutional rights are eroded over time. There is no valid reason for this, and the only way it happens is if the government wants to abuse the new powers they give themselves.

Many scientists claim that a pandemic is "inevitable". It would be a good way to reduce world population; if that were the only goal. But one must consider the fact that such a virus, if unleashed, might mutate beyond any control, killing people they don't wish to die.

In the end, biological weapons are foolish for this reason, unless of course there were a way to ensure the virus would not mutate again.

There are far better ways to reduce population, if that is the goal. And by better I mean more effective, and more easily controlled.

[Locke]

The proven motivations of our governments could give it some credit.

Our constitutional rights are eroded over time. There is no valid reason for this, and the only way it happens is if the government wants to abuse the new powers they give themselves.

Many scientists claim that a pandemic is "inevitable". It would be a good way to reduce world population; if that were the only goal. But one must consider the fact that such a virus, if unleashed, might mutate beyond any control, killing people they don't wish to die.

In the end, biological weapons are foolish for this reason, unless of course there were a way to ensure the virus would not mutate again.

There are far better ways to reduce population, if that is the goal. And by better I mean more effective, and more easily controlled.

It just seems foolish to worry oneself with such speculations when we could mobilize as a society and accomplish concrete goals.

[Cattraknoff]

It just seems foolish to worry oneself with such speculations when we could mobilize as a society and accomplish concrete goals.

The current ruling class will get in the way of anything that will benefit mankind as a whole, rather than just them.

[Ed Jones]

The current ruling class will get in the way of anything that will benefit mankind as a whole, rather than just them.

Completely ridiculous. The current "ruling class" are forced to walk the line, as one foot either side will most likely offend someone and this make them unelectable.

'Gawd' forbid activists, conspiricy theorists and certain pressure groups stop to think about the bigger picture for a second.

[Cattraknoff]

Completely ridiculous. The current "ruling class" are forced to walk the line, as one foot either side will most likely offend someone and this make them unelectable.

'Gawd' forbid activists, conspiricy theorists and certain pressure groups stop to think about the bigger picture for a second.

The wealthy are not elected.

[Ed Jones]

The wealthy are not elected.

Tell that to George W. Bush

[Cattraknoff]

Tell that to George W. Bush

You were either kidding, or mistook my point.

[Ed Jones]

You were either kidding, or mistook my point.

My sense of humour must either be completely awful or far too refined for PoF forum goers

[Horus]

To bring us back on topic:

http://www.bupa.co.uk/health_information/html/health_news/280703mmr.html

The link above says this, for those of you who don't feel like making the extra click :D

According to new research, cases of the developmental disability autism, which was controversially associated with the triple MMR immunisation, have levelled out since 1992. The new research suggests that the rise in cases since 1979 may not have been "real", but rather the result of better awareness, diagnosis and record keeping. They also suggest that some parental claims of a link between MMR and autism may have increased after the immunisation debate arose in 1997
Does this article change any of your viewpoints?

[Cattraknoff]

To bring us back on topic:

http://www.bupa.co.uk/health_information/html/health_news/280703mmr.html

The link above says this, for those of you who don't feel like making the extra click :D


Does this article change any of your viewpoints?

Not at all; My viewpoint didn't stem primarily from the vaccines anyway.

[octoparrot]

the MMR does not cuase autisum. How does an injection give you a geneticallly inherrited desiase?

[Locke]

the MMR does not cuase autisum. How does an injection give you a geneticallly inherrited desiase?

The allegation is that it contains trace amount of mercury that could effect brain damage in young children.

[octoparrot]

The allegation is that it contains trace amount of mercury that could effect brain damage in young children.

It was based on rubbish evidence and a wast of time. the medea got hold of the "resurch" and created LOADS of pointless hype.

[Cattraknoff]

Besides, there are far better ways to turn the populace into idiots. TVs, drugs, and celebrity gossip for instance.

[Locke]

It was based on rubbish evidence and a wast of time. the medea got hold of the "resurch" and created LOADS of pointless hype.

I didn't say I supported that view; I simply delineated the supposed conspiracy, as it seems you asked a question concerning the manner in which a chemical compound could effect a genetic disease.