Gaza Vs. Israel

[Mitch]

I think we've all heard what's going on now between Gaza and Israel.
Gaza is sending rockets across the border and Israel has put economic sanctions on Gaza.
Personally, I think Israel is getting quite out of control. I think there are over 100 confirmed Palestinians killed vs. only a little over 3 confirmed Israelis killed, consequences of these attacks.
This is a case where you see the UN being once again useless. They can't go into Israel because Israel doesn't want them in there, so, all the people in Gaza are suffering from deep poverty and are completely jobless.

[Locke]

Do not be so quick to judge the UN! In an official press statement, they declared: "The actions of Palestinian terrorists are entirely understandable considering the military and economic measures taken by Israel".
Other than that, yeah, they're quite useless.
Not to mention the World Bank funded the Wall that divides the West Bank and Israel, through which Israelis are allowed to pass, and Palestinians are turned into literal prisoners inside their communities. Coupled with sanctions, this can be deemed (and has been) a veritable human rights abuse. However, no one seems to have the impetus to take action. Understandably, there are barriers which cannot be traversed and plenty of legal issues, but God Damn are they (i.e: UN) inutile.

[online.education]

Israel is largely a creation of UK; they wanted to have a presence in the middle east, and the state of Israel was born. Following, other countries supported Israel in order to make their influences present in the region.

We can't turn the clock backward, but one thing the international community should do is to back off. For example, US needs to stop aiding Israel militarily.

[Ed Jones]

This is all true, however considering the delicate situation Israel is in, with its borders being completely surrounded by hostile nations, the 'no-bullshit' attitude Israel takes on almost everything is understandable.

I do not condone the Israeli killings of Palestinian freedom fighters, but i also do not condone strapping a bomb to your chest and running into a crowded civilian area to get your point across. There are no angels in war.

[Cattraknoff]

Israel is largely a creation of UK; they wanted to have a presence in the middle east, and the state of Israel was born. Following, other countries supported Israel in order to make their influences present in the region.

We can't turn the clock backward, but one thing the international community should do is to back off. For example, US needs to stop aiding Israel militarily.

This would be under the assumption that the US actually gives a damn about human rights. They have proven otherwise on numerous occasions. They'll act in their own selfish interests, as can be expected of every nation on the planet.

[Mitch]

I think the US is still saying "Aww, those poor Jewish people, they were almost all killed in WWII, we should help them", when in fact the US probably has another agenda.

[Ed Jones]

Israel is the west's greatest ally in the region. The west supplied them with weapons, the UN sanctioned the land which is now Israel and absolutely no-one gave a damn about the Palestinians that had lived in the region for generations.

Regardless, suicide bombings are the way for diplomacy to move forward, and have largely contributed to Israel stance against the threat. Shoot first, ask questions later. Without it, the state would've never survived this long.

[Locke]

Israel is the west's greatest ally in the region. The west supplied them with weapons, the UN sanctioned the land which is now Israel and absolutely no-one gave a damn about the Palestinians that had lived in the region for generations.

Regardless, suicide bombings are the way for diplomacy to move forward, and have largely contributed to Israel stance against the threat. Shoot first, ask questions later. Without it, the state would've never survived this long.

That is entirely true; however, no other means of discourse other than gaseous explosion in a crowd is available to these people. The West Bank is walled off with extremely strict crossing times and totals; they have been entirely marginalised by Israel ever since the state was established.

[online.education]

The West Bank is walled off with extremely strict crossing times and totals; they have been entirely marginalised by Israel ever since the state was established.

That's not true. Most of West Bank became Israeli territory after 1967.

[Ed Jones]

Terrrorism is terrorism. Regardless of the situation.

[Mitch]

That's not true. Most of West Bank became Israeli territory after 1967.
Because Israel took it over... The remaining parts of the West Bank are as Locke said, walled off, literally or figuratively.

[Cattraknoff]

Because Israel took it over... The remaining parts of the West Bank are as Locke said, walled off, literally or figuratively.

If they didn't insist on blowing themselves up or firing rockets across I'm sure the punitive measures would be lessened.

[Locke]

Terrrorism is terrorism. Regardless of the situation.

And is not authoritarianism authoritarianism regardless of the context? Both parties are at fault. I was not defending the Palestinian extremists.