Wars .. Why are there wars ??

[MM357]

Although most people hate wars, there is still wars in many places in the world . This is not only because these places is not democratic enough, this is also because politicians don't feel the pains of their people [in almost all cases].

Most politicians go into war if they have the enough power, and appear to be very peaceful if they don't have it.

This is in my opinion the cause of these wars. the reason is simply: that there is no law that convinces all humans politicians and public, a law which give everyone the ideas and permissions and make him love obeying the rules of this law. a law that defines cases of war in only logical cases that really requires a military action and after asking the public.

What is the reason in your opinion?

[Mitch]

The reason the US likes wars is that, in previous cases, it boosted the US economy drastically! However, hopefully they've learned this time around as it has done nothing; they are simply in debt with trillions of dollars.
Other countries just use war as a means of communicating it seems. Not the greatest way to do things, but it works.

[Cattraknoff]

There are many reasons for war, most of them stemming from selfishness and a desire for control (power). Also, it provides some ego stroking (You get to believe that you're better than them if you win). We have been doing the same idiotic things for thousands of years, and have yet to learn a damned thing. Soon enough, we will all pay the price for our arrogance, and foolishness.

Also, wars are not necessary for economic growth, it does provide a good justification to go to war, though. The economic growth can be achieved without war (If we weren't morons); and the economic recessions that sometimes happen in peacetime, happen for no real reason, not one that couldn't be prevented. Wars are generally useless, and only justified against nations like Nazi Germany.

[Mitch]

only justified against nations like Nazi Germany.
Though I agree with you, the funny thing about Nazi Germany is that it was created by a previous war, WWI. So all in all, if wars did not exist, we would be much much better off; but that's human nature, apparently, we like to fight.

[Cattraknoff]

Though I agree with you, the funny thing about Nazi Germany is that it was created by a previous war, WWI. So all in all, if wars did not exist, we would be much much better off; but that's human nature, apparently, we like to fight.

It's part of our nature, yes. But humans have the ability to defy that nature. We simply choose not to. But don't worry, final justice shall come, if we don't change our ways. If we want to survive as a species, we have to become worthy of that survival. As it stands, we are weak, and do not deserve it.

[Shane]

For those of you who know of HTML. This would be a lovely tag: </war>

"War does not determine who is right, but only who is left."
- Bertrand Russell


I am personally not a fan of war, yet it may seem delightful to those who lack experience of it.


- Shane.

[Horus]

For those of you who know of HTML. This would be a lovely tag: </war>
Oh, I heard Bush has already got W3C on to adding that in the next 4.01 update! :D

The thing is, war doesn't even need a cause. In the past, it's been caused by a defence of other smaller countries; a very noble cause. In others, it's had slightly more sinister goals; precious commodities in said invaded countries. I feel that war in the future could be as a result of stagnation due to a power vacuum amongst the most powerful nations on Earth.

However, we will see. Every time a major corporation releases news of another technological advancement, you get the impression that we're one step closer to a weapon that will blow this planet to shards.

[Mitch]

:p what nerds.

[Gwendl]

Little kids, when they get in an argument, usually wind up hitting the other kid, because they don't know how to deal with conflict. Unfortunately that sentiment never seems to die out on adulthood. War may be a necessary evil at times of great peril in order to restore order such as in WWII, but a lot of times, war could be avoided with common sense and diplomacy.

Going to war with Iran, as seen with Iraq, does not solve any purpose. It doesn't make less terrorists. It doesn't make America safer. It does the opposite. So why do it? Because people no longer know how to reason out their problems and it's the easier route to go kill something than to do so. Unfortunately, the ones who are willing to take the harder route wind up thrown out of their jobs.

[Cattraknoff]

Little kids, when they get in an argument, usually wind up hitting the other kid, because they don't know how to deal with conflict. Unfortunately that sentiment never seems to die out on adulthood. War may be a necessary evil at times of great peril in order to restore order such as in WWII, but a lot of times, war could be avoided with common sense and diplomacy.

Going to war with Iran, as seen with Iraq, does not solve any purpose. It doesn't make less terrorists. It doesn't make America safer. It does the opposite. So why do it? Because people no longer know how to reason out their problems and it's the easier route to go kill something than to do so. Unfortunately, the ones who are willing to take the harder route wind up thrown out of their jobs.

When you see the government doing something that defies logical thought, generally you can assume that there is an ulterior motive behind it. Ask yourself what they, the government and other members of the ruling class themselves (major corporations and the like) have gained, or could gain from it.

[Ed Jones]

The Danny Boyle film "28 Days Later" state that the rage virus stripped human beings down to their core function - to kill.

Perhaps as human beings war is not a consequence of our actions but is basis of our actions.

Food for thought.

[Cattraknoff]

The Danny Boyle film "28 Days Later" state that the rage virus stripped human beings down to their core function - to kill.

Perhaps as human beings war is not a consequence of our actions but is basis of our actions.

Food for thought.

Humans have the ability to defy whatever our "nature" supposedly is.

[Ed Jones]

So next time you get in a fight and some bloke punches you in the face, feel free to give him a hug.

[Mitch]

What you just said there Ed reminded me of the famous phrase in the bible:
You have heard that it was said, 'An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth.' But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also. And if someone wants to sue you and take your tunic, let him have your cloak as well. If someone forces you to go one mile, go with him two miles. Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you.
That is a powerful quote from the bible, but you must not take it literally. If we let one take everything we have, they will become the one most powerful, the one who will start the wars.

[Cattraknoff]

So next time you get in a fight and some bloke punches you in the face, feel free to give him a hug.

I tend to avoid fights unless it's completely unavoidable or there is a damned good reason. However, only an idiot wouldn't respond once the other party resorts to violence.

[Locke]

Modern war is indubitably and ubiquitously either economically motivated (access to precious materials, deregulation of labor and trade laws) or is a means to achieve political change that will entail economic gain.
However much the inherent tensions that allowed us to survive in the past (i.e: "human nature") figure in war, I believe the motive as of late is greed.

[lihen]

there can be many reasons , but the most important reason today, as i see is world politics.
Other powerfull countries use two conflicting countries for their political or economic reasons and raise a war between these two countries.........
World politics is not only exploiting conflits but also make the war striked countries with no resource to develop, thus stops new powerfull members in world politics.

[online.education]

The reason the US likes wars is that, in previous cases, it boosted the US economy drastically! However, hopefully they've learned this time around as it has done nothing; they are simply in debt with trillions of dollars.
Other countries just use war as a means of communicating it seems. Not the greatest way to do things, but it works.

This is a myth, and this is one of reasons why it's so easy to create the public consensus to support a war in US. It only took a year of media campaign to support Iraq war, for instance.

War is good for bankers because the government borrows heavily, and the government is almost guaranteed to pay back the loan through taxation. A lot of money will be in circulation, so there is a temporary boom in economy. But it's really temporary, but the war itself does not produce anything; it only destroys things.

If, however, the country acquires more land and resources as a result of war, then that will lead to a boom in economy also. But, this cannot be accomplished so easily like the time of Roman Empire.

[Locke]

If, however, the country acquires more land and resources as a result of war, then that will lead to a boom in economy also. But, this cannot be accomplished so easily like the time of Roman Empire.
The action is directly related to the sustenance of an empire. (i.e., Iraq has oil.)

[Mitch]

If, however, the country acquires more land and resources as a result of war, then that will lead to a boom in economy also.
Thanks for reiterating what I said :p
Of course there are resources in Iraq. That is the only reason they are in Iraq, for oil, why else?? Al-Qaeda? HA! Al-Qaeda won't ever die, it's to big and spread out.