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ablaye
11-28-2007, 12:35 AM
When Clinton left power, the US has the largest surplus in US history. Seven years later, with Bush in power, the US has the largest deficit in US history.

When Clinton left power, the barrel of oil was around $26/barrel. Seven years later, with Bush in power, the barrel of oil is well above $90/barrel.

With Bush in power, the US dollar has lost 40% of its value since Clinton left.
Some people are now refusing to get paid in US dollars and some countries are exploring putting their reserves in currencies other than the US dollar.

And don't get me started on the war in Iraq. This idiot has been a disaster for the US.

Syngenetic
01-12-2008, 05:29 AM
Agreed. Waring with Iraq was the stupidest thing we did. We have soldiers dying for no reason. Bush just wanted to make a name for him self before he finished his term. And that he did. He is leaving us hanging.

ShadyPolitics
01-12-2008, 07:01 AM
I think he is the worst President because of the collapsing US economy, empire building, military intervention, decreasing foreign relations, the invasion of Iraq, White House approach towards nuclear Iran.

I think Britney Spears and Paris Hilton would have a better foreign policy then President Bush, I honestly do. Its really a disaster but we have to blame the Senate also for letting him acquire so much power.

eharvester
01-12-2008, 08:20 AM
When Clinton left power, the US has the largest surplus in US history. Seven years later, with Bush in power, the US has the largest deficit in US history.

When Clinton left power, the barrel of oil was around $26/barrel. Seven years later, with Bush in power, the barrel of oil is well above $90/barrel.

With Bush in power, the US dollar has lost 40% of its value since Clinton left.
Some people are now refusing to get paid in US dollars and some countries are exploring putting their reserves in currencies other than the US dollar.

And don't get me started on the war in Iraq. This idiot has been a disaster for the US.

Stop being a shill for the democratic party. Clinton did a lot him, he layed sanctions down on Iraq, which resulted in the deaths of over 500,000 Iraqi children. Clinton bombed the hell out of Iraq during the 90s, remember Kosovo?

No, I don't like Bush, either ;)

RON PAUL 2008!

Cookies
01-12-2008, 05:12 PM
All the Americans are stupid. Why the hell would you elect him AGAIN? More than 70% favored Bush back near the year 2003 (I think), but now, some 10% like him. America should have done something before his presidency was over.

eharvester
01-12-2008, 05:28 PM
All the Americans are stupid. Why the hell would you elect him AGAIN? More than 70% favored Bush back near the year 2003 (I think), but now, some 10% like him. America should have done something before his presidency was over.

He won't be elected again, he's not on the ballot lol what are you talking about? :D

Mitch
01-12-2008, 05:30 PM
eharvester, he's talking about when they elected him again in 2003...

eharvester
01-12-2008, 05:32 PM
eharvester, he's talking about when they elected him again in 2003...

oh, alright. well, most people had a "he broke it, let him fix it" mentality, besides, I believe John Kerry wasn't for pulling out of Iraq.

Gwendl
01-12-2008, 07:13 PM
John Kerry was a weak candidate. He waffled a lot. Teresa Heinz Kerry was not exactly what one would call first lady material. And then there was the whole Vietnam fiasco. I don't believe all the swiftboaters had to say, but there was no denying the footage that they had on him testifying.

If the democrats had run a person who was stronger with less baggage, they would have won with no problem. It wasn't that Bush was a great president. It was that people didn't like Kerry and there wasn't enough "Anybody But Bush" people around.

Cattraknoff
01-12-2008, 07:38 PM
I think he is a bad president because he is a weakling, and a puppet. Make no mistake, the faults of the country are not his fault. An idiot such as him can't possibly be making the decisions. An uncharismatic fool such as him could not possibly have made it to becoming president unless he was helped along. I do not blame Bush, I blame those above him (although he is certainly at some fault, for being a) an idiot and b) a puppet).

brookes
02-13-2008, 07:21 AM
No point in regretting about electing bush. No doubt he is the worst president ever. But we are in the path of making another mistake by electing obama not Mrs clinton who have the record of delivering. When mr. clinton Leeft the white house we are have largest surplus. I think bush will remain in history as the worst president ever.

Coll
02-13-2008, 03:27 PM
Worst president in history? That's easily James Buchanan. Dred Scott, failing to act during the secession crisis, let his personal problems rule the country. If there's one man singley responsible for not stopping the American Civil War, it's him. Let's see, the greatest division in American History, 620,000 soldier deaths (according to Encyclopædia Britannica) and innumerable civilian deaths, the pillaging of notable southern cities such as Atlanta, the loss and/or alienation of some of the greatest military minds in the country, the alienation of several European powers who were considering aiding the Confederate States of America, and a strong bitterness that survives even today in parts of the south where you think they're occupied by a foreign force rather than living in the nation founded by their ancestors.

Positive things Bush has done? Proliferation Security Initiative, constructionist appointments, Vision for Space Exploration, topple of two unstable and genocidal regimes, and maybe one or two others. ~4,000 Americans dead in the War in Iraq (and ~200 UK) is nothing compared to what the American Civil War did to the country, and people calling George the indisputably worst president in history? Just nearsidedness.

Mind you, he wouldn't even be in my top three, as Harding and Grant also sucked ass.

Cattraknoff
02-13-2008, 04:32 PM
No point in regretting about electing bush. No doubt he is the worst president ever. But we are in the path of making another mistake by electing obama not Mrs clinton who have the record of delivering. When mr. clinton Leeft the white house we are have largest surplus. I think bush will remain in history as the worst president ever.

The largest reported surplus. If you look at the actual numbers, there was still indeed a deficit. The actual deficits reported by administrations in recent memory have been covering up how much they've actually been losing.

Cattraknoff
02-13-2008, 04:34 PM
Worst president in history? That's easily James Buchanan. Dred Scott, failing to act during the secession crisis, let his personal problems rule the country. If there's one man singley responsible for not stopping the American Civil War, it's him. Let's see, the greatest division in American History, 620,000 soldier deaths (according to Encyclopędia Britannica) and innumerable civilian deaths, the pillaging of notable southern cities such as Atlanta, the loss and/or alienation of some of the greatest military minds in the country, the alienation of several European powers who were considering aiding the Confederate States of America, and a strong bitterness that survives even today in parts of the south where you think they're occupied by a foreign force rather than living in the nation founded by their ancestors.

Positive things Bush has done? Proliferation Security Initiative, constructionist appointments, Vision for Space Exploration, topple of two unstable and genocidal regimes, and maybe one or two others. ~4,000 Americans dead in the War in Iraq (and ~200 UK) is nothing compared to what the American Civil War did to the country, and people calling George the indisputably worst president in history? Just nearsidedness.

Mind you, he wouldn't even be in my top three, as Harding and Grant also sucked ass.

This as well. Bush is certainly not a great president, of those there have been very few. But he is far from the worst.

Coll
02-13-2008, 06:46 PM
Legalize cloning just long enough to get a new Andrew Jackson and you blokes will be back in business.

Gwendl
02-13-2008, 07:19 PM
Positive things Bush has done? Proliferation Security Initiative, constructionist appointments, Vision for Space Exploration, topple of two unstable and genocidal regimes, and maybe one or two others. ~4,000 Americans dead in the War in Iraq (and ~200 UK) is nothing compared to what the American Civil War did to the country, and people calling George the indisputably worst president in history? Just nearsidedness.


While he toppled two regimes, he did not make them stable. That is the problem. Otherwise, we could significantly draw down our troops in Iraq and Afghanistan. What he did was cause a mess in the vacuum that he created by taking out those regimes, a mess we are going to pay for for years to come.

You really can't compare the civil war with Iraq. But if you plan to, you have to take into consideration the fact that hundreds of thousands on both sides of the conflict in the "host" country died as a result of the war. You can't just say that just 4000 Americans died, so therefore he did much better, while discounting everyone else that was affected.

Coll
02-13-2008, 07:27 PM
Maybe if we were considering Bush for presidency in Iraq or over the world that would be relevant. But as an American president, I think the Civil War is something extremely relevant when claiming someone is the "best" or "worst" president. If you listed things that Lincoln did that were great, would you not include holding the Union together (about as much as he could) or the Emancipation Proclamation?

I never supported the invasions, but toppling genocidal regimes is on the positive list, whether the after effects are in the negative group or not.

Now, are you truly saying that 4,000 Americans today are worth more than 600,000 in 1865? I'd have thought the exchange rate would have gone the other way, to be honest.

hideip
02-17-2008, 08:41 PM
When Clinton left power, the US has the largest surplus in US history. Seven years later, with Bush in power, the US has the largest deficit in US history.

When Clinton left power, the barrel of oil was around $26/barrel. Seven years later, with Bush in power, the barrel of oil is well above $90/barrel.

With Bush in power, the US dollar has lost 40% of its value since Clinton left.
Some people are now refusing to get paid in US dollars and some countries are exploring putting their reserves in currencies other than the US dollar.

And don't get me started on the war in Iraq. This idiot has been a disaster for the US.

How oblivious are you? Honestly the price of oil went up because China and India. They are growing so rapid right now. Blame it on Bush ppffff. Check your facts first, Ok?

Gwendl
02-18-2008, 01:11 AM
The price of oil fluctuates based on how comfortable the investors are. While there may indeed be added demand based on supply for China and India, one cannot discount that meddling in the Middle East has made traders nervous and that does not help the price go down. So while it's fair to say that Bush is not the only reason, he is part of it.

Coll,
I never said that 4000 Americans were more important than 600,000 in 1865. In the civil war, Americans were involved on both sides of the war, whether you were North or South. The reason you can't compare the Iraq War with the Civil War is because America isn't on either side in Iraq. We are like a referee, trying to keep both sides from killing eachother after we opened the flood gates. You are trying to make the argument that Bush is better than Lincoln because just 4000 people died, but you are not including the half million Iraqis that died due to our involvement.

Coll
02-18-2008, 01:20 AM
I didn't say Bush is better than Lincoln, if you actually read my post you'll see that I called Bush a better president than Buchanan.