Zeitgeist

[Mitch]

Here is a very interesting video about the whole conspiracy of Christianity:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5547481422995115331

It's 2 hours long, but if you watch the first half hour you'll get the point.
Very very interesting.

[Cattraknoff]

It's about more than just Christianity.

[Mitch]

Yes, It is about religion in general and many other things. I haven't watched the whole thing yet, I ordered the DVD and will watch the full thing on a screen that won't kill my eyes :p

[Locke]

Does it portray the conspiracy as conscious or does is simply highlight issues and flaws?

[Mitch]

I haven't watch the whole thing yet. When I get the DVD I will report back :)

[Horus]

It looks interesting, as I've never really made my mind up about anything.

I'll definitely take a look at some point this weekend.

[Mitch]

I just got the DVD today :) and it's great!
If anyone wants a copy just PM me, I just need to charge you a small fee for a DVD-R/Shipping if you want it, no profit from it. (Yes, according to the writer, this is legal, as long as I don't make profit)

[ShadyPolitics]

I just started watching the movie, ill give you guys feedback once I finish watching it. I think this movie will be interest though, especially since I am sort of leaning towards anti-religion. I use to be a believer about a year ago, but, I guess researching it really changed my entire ideology of religion. Its really amusing now how I use to argue "non-believers" down on how they were wrong and misled, while I was uncertain myself and blew all the hard questions I couldn't answer off. Now, I am seeing how ignorant some religious people and how quick some are to condemn you to hell.

Some religious people are alright. My friend for example, he doesn't mind listening to logics and my views, as long as I respect his beliefs and listen to his views as well. But, some people I have talked to concerning religious swore that I would burn in hell and some people couldn't believe that I didn't believe in the bible. My position is that I do believe that there is a superior being, which can be referred to as "God", but I believe that the church is completely unrelated, unconnected, and merely created by men.


Update
Finished watching the entire video, very good video although it isn't based on solely religion. The first 45mins of the movie explains how the worshipping of God is really the worshipiing of the "Sun". It explained that rulers turned the "Sun" into a human being to control the population. It also shows how all religions have the exact same gods in depth.

Then after the first 45mins it goes into discussing and suming up the most important information about 9/11 and how it was a conspiracy, then it goes from 9/11 to the Federal Reserve. During the discussion about the Federal Reserve it talked about how they control the country and how the majority of wars (WWI,WWII,Vietnam) were endorsed and started by the Federal Reserve in order to force the United States Government to borrow more money to support it. Then it merged in 9/11 and how the Federal Reserve was behind that. Lastly it discussed the NWO and NAU. It stated that European Union, African Union, NAU, Asian Union.....etc have or are being created and will eventually merge into a World Government which will be controlled by bankers (Federal Reserve).

[Mitch]

I just finished watching as well, Very interesting!!
Those damn bankers! I knew they were always in my pocket! :p
But, ya, was very well done I think. I learned a lot from that movie, though the ending went a little over the top I think, though it probably could happen.
I, and many other people, believe that 9/11 was in fact a conspiracy. There is a huge amount of evidence supporting it being a conspiracy, more evidence than that it was a "terrorist" attack. (I hate that word, it's used incorrectly, which they also said in the movie).
But this movie was mostly, if not all, true. He even cites the sources at the end of the movie, I'm gonna see if I can check some out at the library or some exotic books place. :p
It's worth a watch definitely, it opens your mind (and mouth).

[Cattraknoff]

I saw it a while ago.

It made me reconsider a few things, and further increased my interest in politics.

[Mitch]

I also watched the movie Equilibrium (2002) right after it. :D
Equilibrium is basically what will happen to this world if the Zeitgeist movie is right.

[Cattraknoff]

I'm fairly certain that it is nearly inevitable. I'm not too fond of the prospect, though. The single hope is that the general populace can actually become aware, intelligent, and less short-sighted.

[Locke]

I've never quite understood the purpose of the Federal Reserve; what is it?

[Hopeformorefloors]

To serve as a path for Jewish bankers like the Rothschilds to seize control of the American money supply, obviously.

[Cattraknoff]

To serve as a path for Jewish bankers like the Rothschilds to seize control of the American money supply, obviously.

This.

They must be stopped!

[Hopeformorefloors]

If only there was a way to deal with this problem for all time. A "final solution", if you will.

[Cattraknoff]

If only there was a way to deal with this problem for all time. A "final solution", if you will.

I'm liking the sound of that. I'm sure we could find a book with some suggestions.

Then I could write one with the entire plan. It's perfect.

[Locke]

To serve as a path for Jewish bankers like the Rothschilds to seize control of the American money supply, obviously.

Part of the documentary? Or caustic patter?

[Cattraknoff]

Part of the documentary? Or caustic patter?

It may or may not be both. But it is at the very least the former.

[Locke]

It may or may not be both. But it is at the very least the former.

But it surely cannot be important that they are Jewish.
Where can I obtain the documentary?

[Hopeformorefloors]

But it surely cannot be important that they are Jewish.
That's what the Jewish-owned media want you to think.

[Locke]

That's what the Jewish-owned media want you to think.

What the fuck? What have you guys been watching? I must say, you sound like those Aryan crackpots I often encounter.
Does this movie, in one way or another, involve ZOG?

[Cattraknoff]

What the fuck? What have you guys been watching? I must say, you sound like those Aryan crackpots I often encounter.
Does this movie, in one way or another, involve ZOG?

I'm pretty sure it's now moved into the realms of the latter. ;)

You can watch the video itself at http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/

[Locke]

ISP transferred sarcasm has always been beyond me.
And thank you for the link.

[Cattraknoff]

ISP transferred sarcasm has always been beyond me.
And thank you for the link.

I generally just assume sarcasm when I hope it is. You might call me an optimist.

[Locke]

I generally just assume sarcasm when I hope it is. You might call me an optimist.

I was trodding along that path for a few moments. But I cannot disbelieve anyone who states "the Jews control society!", as I have met far too many who find truth in this.
It's disturbing that the comments on youtube all involve people using the movie as a vehicle for their prejudices (not that I have seen the movie yet.)

[Cattraknoff]

I was trodding along that path for a few moments. But I cannot disbelieve anyone who states "the Jews control society!", as I have met far too many who find truth in this.
It's disturbing that the comments on youtube all involve people using the movie as a vehicle for their prejudices (not that I have seen the movie yet.)

Not all Jews are bankers, and not all bankers are Jews. Some of them happen to be. Just as some black men happen to be criminals (I've heard some say that most are, etc). Those who stick with any of such stereotypes prove nothing but their own ignorance, stupidity, and foolishness.

Edit: A possible explanation for the fact that many of the bankers are indeed Jewish is the fact that many of them could likely trace at least a portion of their wealth back to ancient Rome, which was dominated by Jews, and most of their ruling class remained with some amount of power throughout history (they made up much nobility, the church, etc).

[Locke]

Not all Jews are bankers, and not all bankers are Jews. Some of them happen to be. Just as some black men happen to be criminals (I've heard some say that most are, etc). Those who stick with any of such stereotypes prove nothing but their own ignorance, stupidity, and foolishness.

It is a fallacy that many make.
Anyways, the movie does not work for me.

[Cattraknoff]

It is a fallacy that many make.
Anyways, the movie does not work for me.

notice my edit as well ;)

It could be a problem with codecs on your computer, as I've run across a few versions of the film that don't work for most.

I could send you something to alleviate it if this is indeed the problem, via msn/aim or something.

[Locke]

Edit: A possible explanation for the fact that many of the bankers are indeed Jewish is the fact that many of them could likely trace at least a portion of their wealth back to ancient Rome, which was dominated by Jews, and most of their ruling class remained with some amount of power throughout history (they made up much nobility, the church, etc).
That doesn't quite follow. Jews in ancient Rome were removed from the stratum of power in conjunction with the rise of the church.
It seems, to me, that Jewish culture and its constituents always seem to rise to positions of power within most societies, not in connection with historical events. It has been put forth that the average IQ of those of Jewish descent is approximately 15 points higher than the average of society in whole.

[Cattraknoff]

That doesn't quite follow. Jews in ancient Rome were removed from the stratum of power in conjunction with the rise of the church.
It seems, to me, that Jewish culture and its constituents always seem to rise to positions of power within most societies, not in connection with historical events. It has been put forth that the average IQ of those of Jewish descent is approximately 15 points higher than the average of society in whole.

Which would make me question why everyone else is so stupid?

I'm quite certain it isn't genetics.

[Hopeformorefloors]

It has been put forth that the average IQ of those of Jewish descent is approximately 15 points higher than the average of society in whole.

Clearly, then, Jews are society's intellectual superiors, and it is both explainable and good that they should be society's rulers.

[Cattraknoff]

Clearly, then, Jews are society's intellectual superiors, and it is both explainable and good that they should be society's rulers.

Gaius Julius Caesar wasn't Jewish. Erwin Rommel wasn't, nor was Heinz Guderian, and countless other brilliant men. I would wager that it has a lot to do with the other religions being more restrictive of free thought.

[Locke]

Clearly, then, Jews are society's intellectual superiors, and it is both explainable and good that they should be society's rulers.

I was simply putting a theory as to why the observed phenomenon that Catt has noted occurs. I didn't even mention any such abstract, subjective terms as "good" and "bad", which you seem to have based your reproof on.

[Locke]

Gaius Julius Caesar wasn't Jewish. Erwin Rommel wasn't, nor was Heinz Guderian, and countless other brilliant men. I would wager that it has a lot to do with the other religions being more restrictive of free thought.

You know IQ is just a generalization, though.

[Cattraknoff]

You know IQ is just a generalization, though.

It's a decent starting point for measuring some one's intellectual capabilities.

By no means the final say, though.

[Locke]

It's a decent starting point for measuring some one's intellectual capabilities.

By no means the final say, though.

Exactly. Richard Feynman, astrophysicist and the only man recorded as having made a joke about the 750th digit of pi, has a measured IQ of 123, which would probably be considered quite a paltry number among his astrophysicist colleagues, yet he is an eminent and distiguishedly brilliant individual.

[Mitch]

Locke, being as no one else has correctly replied to your post. The Federal Reserve is not for only Jews :p :D
The Federal Reserve is like the Bank of Canada, HOWEVER, one major difference is that the Federal Reserve is PRIVATELY OWNED! WHAT????? Ya, it's a corporation and the government borrows money from them. How do they make money from this. Well.. they charge interest to the government of course! But here's the big doozy, there is no way to pay back this interest, because there is not enough money printed, and when money is printed, there is more interest on that money. So, it's an infinite cycle of debt that the government can never ever ever pay back.

Unless.... they get people to pay "Income Tax" and pay it back to the Federal Reserve. Hmm............................................... Watch the movie.

Oh ya, should I but the domain name: warinvenezuela.com ?
Apparently Rockefeller is planning the next war there.

[Locke]

Oh ya, should I but the domain name: warinvenezuela.com ?
Apparently Rockefeller is planning the next war there.

I'd be surprised if it wasn't already taken.
It's no secret they want Chavez out.

[Mitch]

It hasn't been taken yet :D But I've already spent tons of $$ on domains. Look at my portfolio http://www.borghunter.com/dnportfolio

[Locke]

It hasn't been taken yet :D But I've already spent tons of $$ on domains. Look at my portfolio http://www.borghunter.com/dnportfolio

Desecrating.net? Apibiscing? I don't understand a number of them.

[Mitch]

Desecrating.net was for a website I attempted to develop, many of them were. I'm just letting them expire.
Adipiscing.com if you search for "adipiscing" in Google, it's part of that whole "Lorem Ipsum" stuff.

Anyways, that's getting quite off topic.